Part of that may simply be because I make this list first. Once I've got the first one made, it stands to reason that the others will be easier. A second reason is because the candidates are all over the map. The past few ballots were rife with classic rock staples, and once you put those acts in order, it's a matter of working the rest in the mix somewhere. Or in my case, using the rankings from previous entries as a template. If six of the nine return nominees weren't from last year's ballot, that would be a lot harder. But stylistically, it's a different ball of wax, so making a coherent order out of things will be a difficult deck to shuffle properly. Another big reason is because this list requires the effort to be as free from bias as possible. Ranking by personal taste is by definition based on bias, and making predictions requires interpreting other people's biases. But this requires an attempted objective ranking based on merits. The merits themselves, though, can be subjective, but overall, I try to make my list of criteria as universally acceptable as possible, in terms of what does in fact matter, whether we like to admit it or not.
And those criteria, for me, boil down to the five things, which I've given names all beginning with I. Four of them are case builders, and the fifth is the negative aspect. Where and when did they break new ground? Who followed in their footsteps? How big were they or is their name recognition factor? What other aspects are there to consider? Why are some opposed to their nomination? These are the big questions that surround every nominee for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and my method tries to address and assess with the categories of Innovation, Influence, Impact, Intangibles, and Issues. And since revealing my Songs Of Proof project, and the fact that I add my favorite songs with the personal tastes ranking, I figured I'd start adding the potential Song Of Proof for the nominees with the merit rankings. Since binge-listening to these artists though, I'm tempted to change some of them. Maybe you'd care to weigh in using the Comments section below. So with that in mind, let's get pissed off at my calling certain acts worthier than others!
1. LL COOL J
Influence: Hip-hop music grew out of block parties and was largely borne of DJ culture. LL Cool J is a seminal figure for what made it an emcee’s game.
Impact: The man’s had a steady stream of hit singles in both the R&B and pop scenes. A respectable album chart showing, too. Plus, with his acting career, he also has a substantial name recognition factor. One of the most commercially successful R&B acts on the ballot.
Innovation: His innovation and influence pretty much complement each other to the point of blurring the lines. In addition to virtually obsolescing the DJ from rap music, he helped make it a solo braggadocio show, replacing rap outfits. Additionally, he’s recognized for both making rap more accessible in smaller bites (shorter songs, meaning more likely radio play) and for creating the bridge of R&B stylings that we still see today in non-rap R&B music.
Intangibles: LL Cool J didn't just make it an emcee's game, his image is also what helped make rap the game for the ladies' man.
Issues: Between his acting career eating up more of his time later in his career, and the embarrassment of "Accidental Racist," which he contributed to, his most recent flavor is sour. Additionally, his reign of influence has since seemingly come to an end, despite the incredible "Time For War" track.
Song Of Proof: "Mama Said Knock You Out" is the perfect song to show how he changed the world of hip-hop.
2. THE CURE
Innovation: They may not have been inventors of new wave per se, but they’ve been around since its genesis, and its exodus to the U.S. airwaves. They’re a band whose sound is unique.
Influence: A unique sound but one that others still attempt to duplicate. Their influence expands even beyond the new wave genre, to all facets and subgenres of the non-mainstream music scene. You might say they’re the Leviticus AND the Deuteronomy of indie-label rock. The numbers don’t lie, and it shouldn’t come as much of a revelation. Ok, enough Bible puns, before I get the Acts… er, ax.
Impact: They’re a name you know no matter what you listen to. And for being indie gods (no pun intended I swear), they actually had a respectable run of mainstream success.
Intangibles: Ever since Robert Smith took down Mecha-Streisand on South Park, the coolness perception of the Cure has only gone up, and really hasn’t come back down…and that’s considering it was already pretty high up to begin with. Also, they stand for a segment of the rock world that seems to be in pretty sore need of recognition.
Issues: The artistic value of emo, a genre the Cure helped influence, is not terribly high, so it's a matter of blaming the original genius for the knockoffs that followed.
Song Of Proof: "Friday I'm In Love" has some of that emotional detachment in Robert Smith's tone and a bit of the melodic beauty of some of their later work.
3. KRAFTWERK
Innovation: As a group, they pioneered what is now known as electronica.
Influence: Again, electronica artists that have come since all tip their hat to Kraftwerk, particularly those from the European scene.
Impact: How big they were in Europe has not been fully measured yet. In North America, their heyday was strongest in the disco/dance music scene, as odd as that may seem, given what the artists of that scene during that time were putting out. Overall, they have two songs that are quasi-known by the general public: "Autobahn" and "Trans-Europe Express."
Intangibles: Only in the recent years has electronica music been getting taken seriously as an art form, at least in terms of coverage from the trade publications, and most point to Kraftwerk as a major point of genesis.
Issues: Rock and roll is generally defined as a blending of traditions from the blues and from country music. Even with the teutonic, danceable beats, the connection from those traditions to Kraftwerk isn't exactly a straight line, and some might argue non-existent.
Song Of Proof: "Autobahn" is a stellar example of pioneering sounds and the primordial beats of what would become EDM.
4. JANET JACKSON
Impact: The biggest singles artist on the ballot in terms of pop, R&B, and dance music, and one of the biggest of the whole rock era. Ranked as the second biggest artist in the realm of dance music, behind Madonna.
Influence: One of the most influential female singers of the past 30 years, paving the way for a lot of starlets of R&B and dance music.
Innovation: While some give more credit to her producers in this regard, her New Jack Swing sound became something of a template for 80's and early 90's dance-R&B.
Intangibles: It really does say something to her talent, ethic, and overall credit that in a family of nine kids, all of whom vied for success as solo artists, she's only one of two that can rightfully claim the label of "superstar." Additionally, had a bigger hand in the creation of her music than she is often remembered for.
Impact: The biggest singles artist on the ballot in terms of pop, R&B, and dance music, and one of the biggest of the whole rock era. Ranked as the second biggest artist in the realm of dance music, behind Madonna.
Influence: One of the most influential female singers of the past 30 years, paving the way for a lot of starlets of R&B and dance music.
Innovation: While some give more credit to her producers in this regard, her New Jack Swing sound became something of a template for 80's and early 90's dance-R&B.
Intangibles: It really does say something to her talent, ethic, and overall credit that in a family of nine kids, all of whom vied for success as solo artists, she's only one of two that can rightfully claim the label of "superstar." Additionally, had a bigger hand in the creation of her music than she is often remembered for.
Issues: Let's get this out the way: "Nipplegate" is a bullshit excuse. Some will still try to point to it as a reason, but it's stupid at best, hypocritical at worst. I've called the roster of inductees a "rogues' gallery" to the point of self-parody, but it's still true: when one considers the crimes, taboos, other iniquities that other inductees have committed, the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame doesn't even have enough moral high ground at this point to blackball Afrika Bambaataa, let alone Janet Jackson. So if you want to put that in the Comments, don't bother. I'm just gonna tell you to STFU. No, any realistic objection is going to stem from the fact that the light and airy timbre and tone color of her voice often caused it to get buried underneath the arrangements and production values, thus inviting floccinaucinihilipilification of her vocal and all-around musical talents. Also, she's been widely panned as simply riding her family's coattails to fame, all the way through until now.
Song Of Proof: "Nasty" is an iconic song that captures New Jack Swing while remaining fierce in the attitude that is lauded in rock and roll.
Innovation: With Brian Eno at the helm in their early work, they are among the biggest pioneers of art-rock, both growing it and differentiating it from prog-rock.
Influence: Tremendous, particularly in the art-rock world, a sub-genre in the rock and roll world that still has a strong heartbeat, though it's not always noticed.
Impact: Commercial success was pretty decent in the albums category. Only a few hit singles, but a few others that are considered classics despite not having charted. Their name recognition factor is pretty high overall.
Intangibles: As the springboard for the production and solo careers of Brian Eno, plus the subsequent solo career of Bryan Ferry, they are regarded as being rife with collective talent, along with flawless production.
Issues: With limited commercial success, some might argue that Roxy Music is better known for giving the world Brian Eno than for their actual music and influence. Also, they did a song about a sex doll. There's art, and then there's bad art.
Song Of Proof: "Love Is The Drug" is the choice, and while it may be cliche, it's also a fun song with a great rock beat and exemplary production.
6. RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE
Innovation: Since this isn't my strongest area, I'll defer to the expertise of others, but my research shows incredible combinations of elements of metal, rap, punk, and even reggae. Apparently they're considered among the pioneers of Nu Metal, or at least brought it as close to mainstream as can be while not being called sellouts.
Influence: Because they resonated with underground circles, this is harder to measure, but there are a lot of rock bands that took their lead from them. Though, even now, some mainstream acts are once again starting to get political.
Impact: A few hits on the pop and rock charts, with charting albums.
Intangibles: A very politically charged outfit, they brought their message strong and hard.
Issues: It's sometimes hard to grasp their message because you can't always discern what Zach De La Rocha is saying. Additionally, they received a blow to their ego and perhaps their credibility when former vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan called them his favorite band of all time. Lastly, a short lifespan leaves question about what could have been.
Song Of Proof: "Bulls On Parade" is an easy example of their politics, and the rage that drove them to push against the machine.
7. RADIOHEAD
Influence: Among the chief torch-bearers of the ethereal rock sound, their influence is still felt when listening to non-mainstream rock.
Innovation: While they didn't invent the ethereal rock sound, what they did with it is unique and easily identifiable to them.
Impact: About as big with the general public as a band can be without being lowest common denominator. A respectable number of hit songs and albums.
Intangibles: With songs like "Creep," "No Surprises," "Idioteque," and "Knives Out;" Radiohead is no slouch when it comes to versatility, and even though "versatile" is an adjective that applies to several nominees this year, it's still meaningful when it applies.
Issues: Thom Yorke's voice does not sit well with everyone; additionally, their love/hate relationship with their own fame has caused a few hiatuses that make them occasionally inconsistent. Also, not everyone is that fond or respectful of their most recent works.
Song Of Proof: "Paranoid Android" is a perfect segue between the original fame of "Creep" and the esteem that OK Computer brought them, being musically between the two.
8. TODD RUNDGREN
Innovation: As a man who's done a lot of work in the control booth, he's been able to forge new sonic sounds and make them his own. One of the most experimental artists on this ballot.
Influence: As a singer/songwriter with versatile style, he's been able to influence a lot of musicians.
Impact: His work has met with quite a bit of critical acclaim, and has enjoyed a decent amount of commercial success, both in terms of singles and albums. Additionally, because of his work as a producer and musician, his name recognition factor is quite high.
Intangibles: He's one of the most versatile musicians on this ballot, not sticking to one style only. He can change the way he sings to accommodate a song. He's also a pioneer of music exhibition media, changing not only what we listen to, but how we listen to it.
Issues: The idea of possibly inducting him as a Performer is supposed to be about the songs where he's the artist, and not necessarily the producer, so separating that production legacy might leave him wanting in the minds of some voters.
Song Of Proof: "Bang The Drum All Day" is still just an incredibly fun record that shows that even rock and roll doesn't always take itself so seriously, and even Todd Rundgren let his sense of humor show through at times.
9. DEVO
Innovation: They were them. As a band that began in the late '70's, they were at the forefront of post-punk, and really tested unfamiliar sonic waters.
Influence: As one of those bands that are really only "got" by other bands (compared to the general public), they proved to be a lot more influential to post-punk than they get credit for.
Impact: One major, iconic song, but several hits across the major trade publications, and even a few multi-song chart entries on the Dance Music charts. Several charted albums as well.
Intangibles: They have the iconic outfits that stick out in people's minds, but they also have a reputation for their commitment to high art and trying to capture highbrow concepts in new and inventive ways.
Issues: Still considered a one-trick pony to way too many people.
Song Of Proof: "Whip It" is the all-too-obvious pick, but the back-and-forth keyboard fills during the chorus almost crack the door open to let people get a glimpse of their full quirkiness and unapologetic forging ahead.
11. THE MC5
Innovation: As a man who's done a lot of work in the control booth, he's been able to forge new sonic sounds and make them his own. One of the most experimental artists on this ballot.
Influence: As a singer/songwriter with versatile style, he's been able to influence a lot of musicians.
Impact: His work has met with quite a bit of critical acclaim, and has enjoyed a decent amount of commercial success, both in terms of singles and albums. Additionally, because of his work as a producer and musician, his name recognition factor is quite high.
Intangibles: He's one of the most versatile musicians on this ballot, not sticking to one style only. He can change the way he sings to accommodate a song. He's also a pioneer of music exhibition media, changing not only what we listen to, but how we listen to it.
Issues: The idea of possibly inducting him as a Performer is supposed to be about the songs where he's the artist, and not necessarily the producer, so separating that production legacy might leave him wanting in the minds of some voters.
Song Of Proof: "Bang The Drum All Day" is still just an incredibly fun record that shows that even rock and roll doesn't always take itself so seriously, and even Todd Rundgren let his sense of humor show through at times.
9. DEVO
Innovation: They were them. As a band that began in the late '70's, they were at the forefront of post-punk, and really tested unfamiliar sonic waters.
Influence: As one of those bands that are really only "got" by other bands (compared to the general public), they proved to be a lot more influential to post-punk than they get credit for.
Impact: One major, iconic song, but several hits across the major trade publications, and even a few multi-song chart entries on the Dance Music charts. Several charted albums as well.
Intangibles: They have the iconic outfits that stick out in people's minds, but they also have a reputation for their commitment to high art and trying to capture highbrow concepts in new and inventive ways.
Issues: Still considered a one-trick pony to way too many people.
Song Of Proof: "Whip It" is the all-too-obvious pick, but the back-and-forth keyboard fills during the chorus almost crack the door open to let people get a glimpse of their full quirkiness and unapologetic forging ahead.
10. DEF LEPPARD
Impact: The biggest albums act on the ballot, and one that had a very strong run of hits throughout the '80's and early '90's.
Influence: From an American perspective, this is harder to measure, as it took a year or two for them to cross over to this side, where hair metal was much bigger. Still, one of the earlier bands of that style, they helped pave the way for a lot of hair metal bands.
Innovation: Again, because they started out of England, rather than being in America, people tend to forget that they were near the beginning of that era of rock and roll and helped shape it, but there they were.
Intangibles: A lot of people like to point to the fact that they have a one-armed drummer, but that's really more of an answer in Trivial Pursuit than a legacy. When it comes to hair metal ballads and rockers, they were pretty well-balanced between the two and even knew how to harmonize on occasion.
Issues: Their music has not aged well. Of all the acts on this ballot, they're the only one that really has this problem, or at least as noticeably as they do. And when you combine the hard and fast twenty-five year rule with the concept of "unquestionable musical excellence" as the Polaris by which the Hall tries to navigate, music that has aged badly seems like exactly the kind of thing the Hall is charged with prohibiting the entry of.
Song Of Proof: "Photograph" is still a hair metal classic, and is a mix of their best qualities.
11. THE MC5
Innovation: Possibly the first to intentionally and regularly use distortion as a key component of their sound, they are also credited as one of the pioneers of punk rock.
Influence: Tremendously so, again, especially in the worlds of punk and hard rock.
Impact: One hit single, two charted albums, both of which at one point were on Rolling Stone's list of most important albums of all time.
Intangibles: They're a strong example of attitude that some say is more important than the actual music when defining "rock and roll." On top of that, given the breadth of artists, including Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees that have come out of the Great Lake State, simply the fact that they came from Michigan, especially from Detroit, almost kind of adds an extra layer of credibility to them, much as being British in the '60s might also be considered a bonus.
Issues: Between a limited commercial run, and often incomprehensible lyrics due to the use of distortion, they might not pass a few people's bars for "Unquestionable musical excellence."
Song Of Proof: "Kick Out The Jams" has the brevity of punk, the raucousness of punk, and a message that really targets the youth of that day. It's a solid and obvious choice.
12. RUFUS FEATURING CHAKA KHAN
Impact: In its own right Rufus struck big a few times with great and funky R&B songs like “Ain’t Nobody”, “Once You Get Started”, and of course, “Tell Me Something Good.”
Innovation: The sounds they made with their rhythm section were seldom, if ever, heard before, and their insistence on vocal harmonies with funk in a way that even Sly And The Family Stone didn’t do as consistently makes their sound something somewhat new and creative.
Influence: Really helped bring funk to the disco scene, which was later carried on by the GAP Band and Chic.
Intangibles: They've done funk, roots, disco, and ballads. They were really a versatile group.
Issues: Because their best-known hits were big hits in the discotheques, they are often pigenoholed as a disco band, rather than the eclectic outfit they were.
Song Of Proof: "Ain't Nobody" is a fantastic and funky song, that hints at the popularity they enjoyed in the disco circles, while also showcasing some tight harmonies.
13. THE ZOMBIES
Impact: Despite only having seven hits on the pop charts (including the Bubbling Under), their big three are really well remembered, and so powerfully symbolic of the ‘60s that it overshadows the short-lived life of the group. Also, with an album in Rolling Stone’s upper fifth of Top 500 albums of all-time, it’s a critical respect thing, too.
Innovation: When you first hear them, it’s almost indescribable. It’s moody and haunting, but not really blues, or even jazz, though there may be elements of those styles in there. But it’s unique, and infectious.
Influence: Somewhat limited, perhaps due to their short-lived first run as a group, but every now and then, some hint of their style creeps up, the most well-known of which might be the Guess Who’s “Undun.”
Intangibles: Their periodic reunions and resurgences all still maintain a high level of quality throughout the years.
Issues: They were very short-lived, before breaking up the first time and are as much being derided as a pet pick of Little Steven as they are being hailed as a Hall-worthy act from the '60's.
Song Of Proof: "Time Of The Season" contains both their trademark keyboards and the mood of psychedelia that is of their time.
14. JOHN PRINE
Influence: His songs have been covered fairly widely, so his original recordings have gained some traction.
Innovation: He effortlessly combined his folk beginnings with other styles in a way that was uniquely his.
Impact: Absolutely no hit singles, and no non-charted classics (as recognized by Record Research, Inc.), but a couple handfuls of charted albums.
Intangibles: His cache with industry insiders is extremely high, including a lot of critical respect. He's arguably the most artistic musician on this ballot. Furthermore, the crowd he was taken under the wing of, the "Outlaws of Country Music," are a highly respected group of musicians, so that association helps him.
Issues: He may have been taken under the wing of the Outlaws, but it seems like he never really emerged out from under that wing, at least not in terms of the public consciousness. Easily the most obscure artist on this ballot, and with the possible exception of Bad Brains, maybe that the Hall has ever nominated, he doesn't have any songs that are instantly associated with him, or at least not his recordings of.
Song Of Proof: "Bear Creek Blues" is from one of his later albums, but it's about as basic as original rock and roll gets: folksy lyrics with a country-flavored arrangement that utilizes the classic A-A'-B blues structure.
15. STEVIE NICKS
Impact: As a solo artist, she's had several charted singles and several charted albums, never near the top in either column among these nominees, but never that close to the bottom either. Also, with "After The Glitter Fades," she's the only nominee this year that charted on the Country And Western charts. Not even outlaw country's foster child John Prine can claim that.
Influence: As a solo artist, her brand of femininity arguably had an influence on upcoming female artists that her image as part of Fleetwood Mac didn't fully flesh out, thus influencing attitude.
Innovation: Next.
Intangibles: With the duets she's done, plus her cache as a member of Fleetwood Mac, she has strong ties to the industry.
Issues: The question keeps coming up, did she really do anything that distinguishes her from Fleetwood Mac? Her solo stuff is synthier, but is that a good thing? It really is hilarious to me to see everyone who hated the idea of inducting Ringo Starr solo defending her as being at least semi-worthy of nomination. Also, some of her best-known songs are duets, which hurts the perception of her standing on her own.
Song Of Proof: "Stand Back" is probably the best example of what displays her solo efforts as a strong female typifying strong womanhood.
And with that, we have our pecking order complete, in terms of merit. Admittedly, my list is but one of a myriad. I've seen at least one list that puts LL Cool J dead last. We all have our own lists based on our own criteria. As a matter of perspective, remember that coming in near the bottom here still beats out literally thousands of eligible artists that didn't make the ballot, most that never will. Overall, I'd say there's only one that is undeserving of nomination. In the past, I've been accused of giving Impact a too much say in the ranks. I think it's safe to say I did not do that this time, though maybe some will still see it that way. Let me know what you think in the Comments below. But no "Nipplegate" arguments, it just makes you Les Moonves's unwitting puppet.
Issues: He may have been taken under the wing of the Outlaws, but it seems like he never really emerged out from under that wing, at least not in terms of the public consciousness. Easily the most obscure artist on this ballot, and with the possible exception of Bad Brains, maybe that the Hall has ever nominated, he doesn't have any songs that are instantly associated with him, or at least not his recordings of.
Song Of Proof: "Bear Creek Blues" is from one of his later albums, but it's about as basic as original rock and roll gets: folksy lyrics with a country-flavored arrangement that utilizes the classic A-A'-B blues structure.
15. STEVIE NICKS
Impact: As a solo artist, she's had several charted singles and several charted albums, never near the top in either column among these nominees, but never that close to the bottom either. Also, with "After The Glitter Fades," she's the only nominee this year that charted on the Country And Western charts. Not even outlaw country's foster child John Prine can claim that.
Influence: As a solo artist, her brand of femininity arguably had an influence on upcoming female artists that her image as part of Fleetwood Mac didn't fully flesh out, thus influencing attitude.
Innovation: Next.
Intangibles: With the duets she's done, plus her cache as a member of Fleetwood Mac, she has strong ties to the industry.
Issues: The question keeps coming up, did she really do anything that distinguishes her from Fleetwood Mac? Her solo stuff is synthier, but is that a good thing? It really is hilarious to me to see everyone who hated the idea of inducting Ringo Starr solo defending her as being at least semi-worthy of nomination. Also, some of her best-known songs are duets, which hurts the perception of her standing on her own.
Song Of Proof: "Stand Back" is probably the best example of what displays her solo efforts as a strong female typifying strong womanhood.
And with that, we have our pecking order complete, in terms of merit. Admittedly, my list is but one of a myriad. I've seen at least one list that puts LL Cool J dead last. We all have our own lists based on our own criteria. As a matter of perspective, remember that coming in near the bottom here still beats out literally thousands of eligible artists that didn't make the ballot, most that never will. Overall, I'd say there's only one that is undeserving of nomination. In the past, I've been accused of giving Impact a too much say in the ranks. I think it's safe to say I did not do that this time, though maybe some will still see it that way. Let me know what you think in the Comments below. But no "Nipplegate" arguments, it just makes you Les Moonves's unwitting puppet.
My rankings of the nominees
ReplyDeleteNominees in order of my favorites....
1. Radiohead
2. Janet Jackson
3. Kraftwerk
4. Def Leppard
5. Rage Against the Machine
6. Devo
7. Todd Rundgren
8. The Zombies
9. LL Cool J
10. The Cure
11. Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
12. Stevie Nicks
13. The MC5
14. Roxy Music
15. John Prine
Most Deserving of Induction into the HOF
1. Kraftwerk
2. Radiohead
3. Janet Jackson
4. Def Leppard
5. The Cure
6. The MC5
7. Devo
8. The Zombies
9. Rage Against the Machine
10. Todd Rundgren
11. LL CooL J
12. Roxy Music
13. Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
14. Stevie Nicks
15. John Prine
Most Likely to Be Inducted (with short reasons)
ReplyDelete1. Todd Rundgren (singer-songwriters usually win over the voters; has the connections with numerous HOFers with his collaborations, part of the "classic rock era" which has dominated the types of inductees in recent years; experimental enough for the more indie-loving voters; Todd reeks of the "longtime snubbed acts that could get in immediately if they could just get on the ballot one time)
2. Def Leppard (will win the Fan Vote, enough said)
3. Stevie Nicks (90% of current living Hall of Famers will vote for her; 95% of female voters will vote for her, etc She might get more votes than anyone on the ballot)
4. The Zombies (the only pre-1970 act on the ballot, that'll get them at least 50% of the voters alone; younger, more hip voters that have become fans in recent years might help push them over the top)
5. Janet Jackson (biggest star on the ballot with very few "threats" from the worlds of R&B and rap on the ballot to take away her votes; the increase in male, white voters from the world of rock music that don't take R&B, pop, or female musicians (especially black female musicians) in general seriously will hurt her chances like with her previous nominations, but there's not enough outstanding, white, male, "no brainer" rock bands to take votes away from her; this should be her year)
6. Radiohead (Surely the voters won't pass on them a second time?)
7. The Cure (pretty much all recent HOF inductees and punk and indie/alt voters will have them on the ballot; they had cross-over success in America unlike recent 80's alt rock nominees, so their chances are strong)
8. Rufus feat. Chaka Khan (a group highly respected by musicians and Chaka is a favorite of many HOFers, other than Janet no other R&B acts on the ballot to steal their votes; a dark horse to make it for induction)
9. John Prine (whenever a more obscure critically acclaimed singer-songwriter appears on the ballot, 90% of the time they get the votes to find induction somehow when we least expect it; John Prine fits the bill perfectly, though he's extremely obscure compared to the normal type of nominees; so this will be an interesting test to see if that theory holds true)
10. Roxy Music (Brian Eno will get them voters; but will it be enough?; the high amount of indie/alternative acts will hurt their chances though they were around in the 70's which gives them an edge over the more modern alt-rock acts on the ballot)
11. Rage Against the Machine (not as iconic and enduring as Radiohead, but still a big name from the 90's, and they're American which gives them an advantage over Radiohead)
12. LL Cool J (He's been passed over 5 times, while the Voting Body has gotten older and whiter, and more rock-orientated; I don't like his chances)
13. Devo (thought of by too many people with no clue, as a one hit wonder or novelty act with their outfits and few video hits on MTV; they'll fall well short of the more widely respected and known names on the ballot)
14. The MC5 (It took the Stooges who were far more iconic and enduring with a big name star in Iggy Pop like 8-9 nominations to get in, I don't see the MC5 getting on their 4th or 5th try, especially when (like Devo) there's far more well known names on the ballot)
15. Kraftwerk (electronic music isn't respected by hardly any pre-1985 rock musicians, which make up about 90% of the previous HOF inductees electorate. Even among American music critics and journalists, EDM isn't that respected; Too many people in the music industry just don't see how revolutionary Kraftwerk has been on post-1980 music, heck especially post-2010 music, where every relevant genre from rap to indie rock to pop is all electronic-based. Kraftwerk are too far ahead of their time to get the votes from an older, out of touch voting body that the RNRHOF currently has).
LL Cool J at #1 is ridiculous. The fact that he has been passed over for induction time and again while other hip hop stars get inducted right away tells you everything you need to know about how minimal his impact happened to be. Less of a game changer than other Hip Hop acts that made the ballot (Afrika Bambaataa and Eric B. & Rakim). LL Cool J is the Hip Hop career compiler without a tremendous peak in the same way that Bonnie Raitt is a career compiler with no artistically innovative highlights.
ReplyDeleteHe would make for a boderline, and therefore, worthy inductee. But more important to Rock music than Kraftwerk, Radiohead or a post-punk name like The Cure? Come on.
You also hype up his commercial success and name recognition, yet he was never a true superstar and Janet Jackson and Def Leppard are on the very same ballot.
I knew LL Cool J would be number 1 and Stevie Nicks would be number 15.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, considering Prine is ahead of LL Cool J and Kraftwerk, and has a chance of passing Radiohead, I don't think he's Bad Brains level of obscure.
ReplyDeleteMaybe, but Prine's not too much more well-known than them.
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